How to first coat a drywall flat joint with a hawk and trowel

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How to first coat a drywall flat joint with a hawk and trowel

I use a trowel to coat with. This is some of how I do it.
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Mix 2 cups water with one box of drywall mud. Apply about 1/8″ thick. Use a plastic bag for texture. I glued the bag to cardboard. This is my first attempt a…

50 responses on “How to first coat a drywall flat joint with a hawk and trowel

  1. matty0030

    What size hawk do you use, I wanna start using a hawk and trowel Ive been
    using pan and knife now for some years 

  2. Richard McWhorter

    Good Video, Very clear and helpful. Any insight on why some guys use the
    small trays for mud and others prefer the hawk? The hawk seems more useful
    ?

  3. TheSteamer13

    Wonderful CRAFTSMANSHIP! I just learned a lot. I am trying to fix a bad
    taping job in my daughters bedroom. I was struggling then found out what I
    am doing wrong. Thanks for your video.

  4. Mud Slingr

    Blending can be tricky. I usually do all the flats in my houses first then
    go back to the first room or butt. By that time the flat is usually “set
    up” enough that I can take the butt through it without hurting it. Trying
    to do a flat and then immediately a butt running into it is not easy to
    blend but it can be done. Just needs a lot of practice. Your final coat on
    butts needs to be quite thin as well. But then I always do 3 coats on my
    butts.

  5. rotaxrider

    So is the second and final coat the exact same way on this flat. When this
    joint is finished should you see still see the two raised edges of the 2
    sheets where the factory edge starts or is the mud feathered pass these
    hiding them.

  6. rotaxrider

    Thank you mudslinger You understood correctly and that is exactly what I
    mean. I see the shoulders of the factory seam and wasn’t sure if the mud
    needs to hide the shoulders or if it should be done that the last coat is
    so very thin over the shoulder that it is barely visible. Because sometimes
    I’ll see it just like you described and other times the finished coat is
    much wider covering and hiding the shoulder completely.

  7. Mud Slingr

    @derv39 I use a flat 11¾” x 3¾” trowel.Once you master a flat trowel you’ll
    never need a curved one in my opinion.

  8. 2011richc

    When I peel it, I can see that there is mud everywhere, just on those
    little spots it seems to have form a little whole in the mud, but there is
    mud under that bubble. Could it be because I’m leaving too much mud on, so
    this leads to having a few dry spots under the tape. I thin my mud a little
    to get it to ooze a little easier, should I thin it a bit more? To get
    square and tight corners, do I have to wipe all the excess mud out, leaving
    just the a bit under the tape?Thank you showing your work

  9. 2011richc

    Thank you for your response! yeah, all the taping by hand, with only the
    corner problem… maybe i don’t thin my mud enough, making it hard to
    squeeze out excess mud and get it square and tight… one more question,
    when sanding how can I avoid these overlapping marks between two areas that
    have not been coated at the same time (like where the flat and butt meet),
    does’nt seem to blend as one,like one area is harder than the other,
    leaving like a ridge when you put a light on it. Thank you again

  10. Mud Slingr

    Thanks for your comment. I use a flat trowel for everything. Once you
    master it you will never need a curved trowel for anything again. A curved
    trowel is a great learning tool though. It helps you to understand how much
    mud is applied and a little more forgiving. Good trowel size is 11½ x 4¾.

  11. Mud Slingr

    Sorry for the late reply. Yes it’s sounds like your mud may be a little too
    thick. If you see mud underneath, chances are your mud is full of air holes
    that do not get squeezed out. Warm mud can be gooey and hard to work with
    also. Cooler mud and temps are nice for applying mud. But usually air
    bubbles behind the tape are caused by voids in the mud applied(bare spots).

  12. MicheleInAlabama

    Beautiful job. Love the name Mud Slingr. 🙂 Thank you SO MUCH. I see now
    what I’m doing wrong — I didn’t realize there was a way to hold the trowel
    at an angle to feather the edges. I’m telling you, I have a new found DEEP
    respect for the drywall and ceramic floor guys……I’ve never been in such
    pain or done anything so difficult as mudding drywall and laying ceramic
    tile.

  13. Montana Harvestor

    Smoking weed before doing this type work will give you whacky ideas. 2
    weeks, 2 months, 2 years.

  14. BARB G

    HOW DO YOU REMOVE “BAD”, UGLY, HIGH SPOTS IN A CEILING BEFORE
    RE-TEXTURING/PAINTING???? IT JUST WON’T “SCRAPE” OFF!

  15. Miranda Islas

    STOP THE TEXTURING!!! Texture is BAD! No more textured ceilings or walls
    please! It looks cheap and dated.

  16. wonbadood

    I nearly hit the thumbs down when you said “paper bag” but stuck with it
    and enjoyed. Trowel & Hawk would be much faster i think but “Thumbs Up”
    anyway.

  17. jaguar420g

    my cousin showed me how to do something similar in the early 80,s but what
    he did was to put a couple of tea towels in a plastic bag really tight.
    then roller on the artex slightly looser then move the bag around the
    ceiling. The name for that style of patten was broken leather

  18. juleen76

    Wow, thanks! We’ve been trying to figure out how to match up a section of
    our living room and couldn’t get the texture right. This worked perfectly!

  19. Jessica Capages

    This is a great learning experience! And sometime you have to make due with
    what you can create! GREAT JOB!

  20. Annie B

    Good idea- thanks! It would be nice to know what compound you’re using and
    if you thinned it at all. I’m working on a ceiling now and have been just
    using a roller. It’s turning out good but the white primer seems to show
    through so will have to paint the ceiling. This process you used has full
    coverage so a person won’t have to paint if they don’t want to.

  21. wasabitobiko

    OMG.. WHY, WHY? would you use that texture.. Think about the people who
    will have to deal with it after you’re gone. I’m in the process of cleaning
    up someone else’s shitty job